457 Visa for Australia -Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457)

 

457 Visa for Australia -Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457)

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Visa Summary Features

This visa lets a skilled worker travel to Australia to work in their nominated occupation for their approved sponsor for up to four years. ​​

Requirements

Visa Summary Requirements

You might be able to get this visa if:

• you have been sponsored by an approved business
• you have the required skills to fill a position nominated by an approved business.

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Advice on moving to Sydney

Hi

Are you thinking of  immigrating to Australia? (or immigrating to any country for that matter)

Here is some advice on moving or immigrating to Sydney from someone who has moved to Sydney, but also has moved country many times - and this with family in tow.

Actually this advice applies to anyone immigrating from any country to any other country.

There is a very very very large chance it will fail - either due to lack of work, spouse or children being unhappy.

I have met some families where the mother cant speak any English and due to this afraid to let her 15 year old daughter out the house. The kid is practically a prisoner in a foreign country with no friends. Whenever the mothers goes out to shop or whatever the daughter is used as the interpreter and help and support crutch. Its no ideal. I am not judging but it can be horrendous for the children.

This is a highly complex issue and we are highly complex beings whose well-being is formed by things like attitude, values, friends, familiar places, shops, religion, family, money, climate(yes really)

Don't burn your bridges. Don't spend all your money. Don't sell your house, parrot, boat, whatever :)

Put it in storage with your family or just pay for storage.

Go to your new destination with eyes wide open.

It WILL be a holiday for the first six months - after that not so much, no friends, - just getting a pair of jeans or other item that fits and is to your taste is an issue.

Take at least a year maybe two before your pull all your assets over to your new country.

Go cheap, rent cheap, (close your eyes at the crappy rental house, and shabby carpets) - have cash left over to use for travel, weekend trips, do spoil your family.

You will need cash for a car or two. Especially if you have family.

If you are from the upper class in some other country - scale it down and be very prepared to scale it down. You need to drop down a level in order to start again.

You wont succeed if your family is unhappy. (did I mention that)

Make a 250 percent effort to spoil and cherish your spouse and children. Burn your assets on this for years - Remember, a house does not make your family happy - doing things, getting out, events, parties, clubs, learning activities, some sort of friendship network - this makes adults and children happy.

Send your family home - one, two or all for long holidays, don't mind if the holidays overrun the Australian school terms. Let them recharge, make it happen, think out the box.

I recently enjoyed the opportunity to work in another country (I left Sydney for two years) and now that we are to go back to Sydney its a frightening situation.

Money is tight in Sydney- things are very expensive -especially rentals. The feeling in the family is one of dread. Everything was under a budget.

If you have some cash, and buy a property, that's a good option as rentals in Sydney are very high and normally eat up a large chunk of the income.

Sydney is a great place don't get me wrong, its safe comparatively, has a fairly good infrastructure and schooling. But nothing is good if its too expensive to go out or you have no family or friends to share your experiences with.

A lot of people have posted on how hard they have found it to get a job in Sydney. They wasted large amounts of money moving, immigrating buying furniture and cars. Some people did all this and ran out of cash after some period - One commenter (on this blog) looked for six months and he was highly qualified - and still did not find work - not even an interview.


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Best suburbs to raise a family in Melbourne

After moving to Australia some time ago I did some research on Melbourne in various places on the net - forums, blogs, answers.

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Here is what I found 

Middle suburbs would probably be good - ones that do come down a bit in price because they are that little bit more out distance wise (approx 10 -15kms) These are not as expensive as the inner suburbs. 

Places like Balaclava, Oakleigh, Murrumbeena, Carnegie, Malvern East, Ashburton, Moorabbin, Cheltenham(these are all on the South Eastern side of the city).
The closer you get to the beaches the more it will cost. All of the above are on train lines and about 15-20 minutes by train from city or same by car.

It depends on whether you want to buy, rent, and if the schools are to be government or private.

Of course the suburbs that have the good government schools are usually a lot more expensive. 

Some other lady said

We have three young children and live in Ormond / McKinnon.  This is on the train line with great access to the city, its 5 to 10 minutes to the beach, there are outdoor pools and is also only 15 minutes from great shopping at Chadstone or Southland.
Our children are 9, 7 and 1 and we have found the public schools in the area to be excellent, there are also many good private schools. We have been away for 3 years and are returning there next week. Across the Nepean Highway to the Bayside suburbs of Brighton, Sandringham and Hampton the real estate prices are significantly higher. 

 

Someone else - 

Southbank is definitely my recommendation! It is only a ten minute walk to the city, it has excellent public transport (tram, bus and train), the road cafes are great and  the casino and Yarra river are nearby.

Another gent gave this review

Sought after areas in Melbourne are around the East, South and Southeast side, so this pushes up the price of the properties on those sides are pretty expensive. The inner suburbs are older houses, these are pretty dense and small, with hugely expensive prices due to their closeness to the CBD. 
I used to live in Collingwood and Clifton Hill (the inner suburbs) with my parents. Then got married in 2000 and started looking for our own place. The obvious path will be to look around the area that I have always lived in. However after searching for some time we realized that with our budget of about $300K, we could only find a run-down house that we would need to renovate extensively. We were looking further and further towards East and South East area, until we reached Rowville and felt that it had become ridiculously too far, not to mention the peak-hour traffic report that you usually hear from the radio on the M1. 
We finally found Point Cook, west of Melbourne. It is about 20 minutes from the city via the Westgate Freeway with plenty of new estates being opened, affordable prices, close to the sea and infrastructure that is aimed at young families. Just  have a look yourself if you are interested to find out.

Another insight

The flat newly developed (and industrial) areas are in the north and west. East and south east are the better areas with better living areas and life styles. What it comes down to is that cheaper areas are western and northern burbs which tend to be more industrialized. Nicer areas tend to be a little more expensive but worth the cleaner areas. Mind you some of the inner suburban areas are very expensive for a small dingy terrace house.

A differing opinion

Melbourne is NOT the world's most liveable city at all ! How arrogant is that ?? It's the best Aussie has got and that is thanks to the multiculturals. I've lived there for 4 years and know it very well. The older western inner suburbs are good like Nth Melbourne and Brunswick or older parts of St Kilda in the other direction. There are many nice inner suburbs around and also Yarraville over the bay is a very quaint old area. There is no escaping the hyped prices now on property unless you want to buy a crappy oversized legoland house on a muddy subsiding outer suburb scheme, which you should steer well clear of. Also, that Docklands is a nightmare c o c k up so I would forget that too. It is a hideous mess. I also hope you get used to the world worst rude drivers ! Go

One lady resident born and bred

I grew up in Glen Huntly and I loved living there as it was close to nice leafy suburbs like Caulfield and Bentleigh. When my husband and I purchased our first place we chose Cheltenham as we could not afford to buy into Glen Huntly/Caulfield. After living here for 2 years I can honestly say that it would be one of the best places in melbourne to live. We are right next to trains, Southland shopping centre, good schools, cafe's, beach, a major highway and every other amenity you could think of (including an excellent bulk billing medical centre that is open until 10pm every day). All this only 19k from Melbourne CBD. We have now purchased our second home in Highett and I am thrilled to be staying in the area. 

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BrightonExpensive area – its one of Melbourne's top suburbs
Beaumaris,Nice family area – close to beach / golf courses / Westfield Southland
BoroniaFull of bogans – relatively close to Knox City Shopping Centre
Dandenong.Even more bogans.

Brighton & Dandenong are worlds apart in terms of location and cost of living –

Another

Brighton is one of the most expensive suburbs in Melbourne; similarly livable but more affordable suburbs are Ormond and Hampton.
If you're in your 20s or early 30s, childless and want to live in a ‘trendy’ (I despise this term, but it’s pretty apt) south-east suburb, look at South Yarra (where I live), Prahran or Windsor. The latter two are more affordable, but there are seedy areas.
If you're in your early 30s or over, have children or will have children in the near future and want to live in a yuppie suburb, look at Malvern, Malvern East, Armadale, Glen Iris and Caulfield/Caulfield North/Caulfield South/Caulfield East. Elsternwick, St Kilda East and Carnegie are also family friendly, but less yuppie-ish.
I may be biased, but my vote goes to South Yarra. It has its faults (e.g. high median house price [although, you intend on renting] and high wanker factor), but I can’t think of any other south-east suburb with as many great cafes, restaurants, shops, schools, parks, bars and clubs. The public transport is also very good and [edit] it's close to the city/CBD. 

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Australians discriminate against Greek people in Australia

Ozzies are scared of immigrants taking their jobs.

Greek people sometimes get called Aboriginies (there is nothing wrong with Aboriginies)

I quote a school yard taunt to a Greek child  
“Wog, wog, why don’t you go back to your own country, dirty wog?”

My friend tells his children this -  “Australians are highly racist, They(Ozzies) are racist and they are amorphoté. ” This word literally means to be uneducated but this is an inadequate translation.

This is one of his ways of alleviating their issues. unfortunately some greek children go onto becoming hardened to mainstream Australia.

Therefore, Greeks families have been accused of acting as loners, not integrating and not attending Australian functions(school, work, where ever), which further increases the divide between people.

I would like to say that many Australians are not racist. But Racism as always, is not an obvious thing, Its often hidden and unknown to the person dishing it out as they follow examples set by culture, parents and friends.


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Issues that Greek speaking people face in Australia

I was chatting to a Greek friend of mine, who I met through a moving country when I moved to Sydney some years back. After talking to him I decided to do some research across different forums and see what Greek immigrants to Australia have to face when they move to Australia.

The worst is the language. Australia is English speaking. So you need to make an effort to learn English. Otherwise you will never integrate, often it is only the children that do this at school and the parents never quite feel part of the country. 

Not being fluent in English can negatively affect who you befriend, job opportunities and your general level of comfort in getting around.

Missing ones home where you know where everything is another problem. Once the initial excitement of moving o\f Australia wears off everything can become very strange. Greek resident of australia seem to especially miss their home food and local culture. - Not to mention their family as they are very close knit to their extended families.

My friend, seemed to think he could not get a promotion or a better job as he was perceived to be a foreigner - and he had been here in Sydney for ten YEARS!!!

I might add  - he was a really really nice guy, honest and with wife and kids and he was really struggling to get ahead financially.

A lot of Greek people are being driven to australia by lack of jobs in their home countries

I saw another article about a 41 year old man who finds himself studying English in Australia and working nights for a fish warehouse in Melbourne. 

After nine months of unemployement, he left his wife and two kids in Athens and moved to Australia on a student visa. 

He said its difficult in Greece,with a family and you stay at home and you can't do anything due to no money or work, he complained with pain in his face,

At least he has some hope of a better future here in Australia. it wont be easy and he may fail - good luck to him,

Greek nationals only get Australian work visa's via sponsorship prior to entering the country and skilled migration visas are limited to  occupations where Australia has skill shortages. There are long provess times for these visa's.

Luckily this Greek mans employer is going to sponsor him for a permanent visa, which he hopes to get by the end of the year. He is one of only 102 Greek nationals that received  Australian student visas in 2011. This is according to Australia’s Department of Immigration and Citizenship.

Greeks are running from a deepening recession at home that has cause  unemployment to skyrocket.

Most of the immigrants have headed to Melbourne, Australia’s second-largest city and home to 400,000 Greeks — the biggest group in Australia.

There are a lot of sympathetic people in Melbourne trying to create jobs for Greek migrants.  Local taxi operators owned by some Greek Australians made big headlines in the news in October when they introduced a scheme to hire 1,000 taxi drivers from Greece to ease the city’s chronic cab shortage.


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Greeks moving and immigrating to Australia

Melbourne, Australia has the largest Greek population outside of Greece! If you are from Greece or Greek and thinking of moving to Australia at some point, I have some good news! I was plugging away on the internet when I cam across a number of resources claiming that the city of Melbourne, Australia has the largest Greek population outside of Greece!  Good news in deed for anyone leaving their home country as this means there will probably be a lot of Greek shops Cafe's, restaurants etc in Australia. There is nothing worse than immigrating to another country and no having anything of home there with you. I know we often move to get away from our countries, but believe me there will come a time when you miss your home country. issues Greek immigrants face in Australia The most prevalent peoples in Greater Melbourne (Greater Capital City Statistical Areas) are English 21.1%, Australian 20.7%, Irish 6.9%, Scottish 5.7%, Italian 5.5% and Greek 5.0%. Melbourne has the world's third largest Greek-speaking population after Athens and Thessaloniki (Melbourne's Greek sister city). The cultural diversity is reflected in the city's restaurants serving various international cuisines. read more --- Racist Issues Greeks face in Australia

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